• vim and MultiMail

    From digimaus@618:618/1 to All on Sun Jun 14 12:17:01 2026
    Hi everyone,

    So I bought myself a good used computer--a HP EliteDesk 800 G4 desktop Mini-- and set up Windopws 11 on it. I installed vim and it works great with Multimail. I never thought I'd like vim until I tried it, especially its macro
    capability.

    The funny thing is that vim runs on everything, even OS/2.

    -- Sean

    ... I got a new pen that can write under water. It can write other words too.

    --- MultiMail/Win
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  • From Tanausu M.@618:500/19.1 to digimaus on Sun Jun 14 16:40:37 2026
    Hello digimaus!

    14 Jun 26 17:39, Tanausu wrote to digimaus:

    Hi everyone,

    So I bought myself a good used computer--a HP EliteDesk 800 G4 desktop Mini--
    and set up Windopws 11 on it. I installed vim and it works great with Multimail. I never thought I'd like vim until I tried it, especially its macro
    capability.

    The funny thing is that vim runs on everything, even OS/2.

    The advantage of using multimail.

    I didn't start using vim until I was forced to use neovim as my command-line ide via ssh. But... in the end, it's all about getting used to it.


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  • From Sean Dennis@618:618/1 to Tanausu M. on Sun Jun 14 14:40:12 2026
    Hello Tanausu,

    14 Jun 26 16:40, you wrote to digimaus:

    I didn't start using vim until I was forced to use neovim as my command-line ide via ssh. But... in the end, it's all about getting
    used to it.

    I started to use vim because I needed one editor that worked on all the OSes I used at the time and vim was it. Its macro setup makes it very easy for me to do repetitive things, like posting a recipe at the end of a message (a decades-old tradition in the Fidonet COOKING echo).

    -- Sean

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  • From Tanausu M.@618:500/19.1 to Sean Dennis on Sun Jun 14 19:18:38 2026
    Hello Sean!

    14 Jun 26 20:18, you wrote to me:

    Hello Tanausu,

    14 Jun 26 16:40, you wrote to digimaus:

    I didn't start using vim until I was forced to use neovim as my
    command-line ide via ssh. But... in the end, it's all about getting
    used to it.

    I started to use vim because I needed one editor that worked on all the OSes I
    used at the time and vim was it. Its macro setup makes it very easy for me to
    do repetitive things, like posting a recipe at the end of a message (a decades-old tradition in the Fidonet COOKING echo).

    I couldn't stand it, not even when I first saw it on an amiga. I had to restart to get out :D


    ... Artificial Intelligence usually beats real stupidity.
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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Tanausu M. on Sun Jun 14 19:26:48 2026
    Tanausu M. wrote to Sean Dennis:

    I couldn't stand it, not even when I first saw it on an amiga. I had to restart to get out :D

    That's the truew test if you're a real nerd, I'm told, though vim seems to
    be smart wnough these days to help you figure out how to get out of it if
    you get stuck in it. LOL

    -- digi


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  • From Tanausu M.@618:500/19.1 to Sean Dennis on Mon Jun 15 00:56:01 2026
    Hello Sean!

    15 Jun 26 01:55, you wrote to me:

    Hello Tanausu,

    14 Jun 26 16:40, you wrote to digimaus:

    I didn't start using vim until I was forced to use neovim as my
    command-line ide via ssh. But... in the end, it's all about getting
    used to it.

    I started to use vim because I needed one editor that worked on all the OSes I
    used at the time and vim was it. Its macro setup makes it very easy for me to
    do repetitive things, like posting a recipe at the end of a message (a decades-old tradition in the Fidonet COOKING echo).

    To this day, even on the latest versions and the strangest operating systems imaginable, I still use it. Now that I have more experience, it doesn't seem odd to me anymore. But whoever wrote all those commands was clearly having a bad day.


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  • From Tanausu M.@618:500/19.1 to digimaus on Mon Jun 15 00:56:31 2026
    Hello digimaus!

    15 Jun 26 01:56, you wrote to me:

    Tanausu M. wrote to Sean Dennis:

    I couldn't stand it, not even when I first saw it on an amiga. I had to TM>> restart to get out :D

    That's the truew test if you're a real nerd, I'm told, though vim seems to be smart wnough these days to help you figure out how to get out of it if you get stuck in it. LOL

    I haven't been able to stop laughing at your comment :D


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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Tanausu M. on Mon Jun 15 12:55:02 2026
    Tanausu M. wrote to digimaus <=-

    I haven't been able to stop laughing at your comment :D

    It's funny because it's true. I have seen people get very angry at getting "stuck" in vim...or angry at me for changing EDITOR to /bin/ed. XD

    -- digi <8D~

    ... My other computer is a Timex/Sinclair 1000.

    --- MultiMail/Win
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  • From digimaus@618:618/1 to Tanausu M. on Mon Jun 15 13:14:44 2026
    Tanausu M. wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    To this day, even on the latest versions and the strangest operating systems imaginable, I still use it. Now that I have more experience, it doesn't seem odd to me anymore. But whoever wrote all those commands
    was clearly having a bad day.

    From my experience, it's not only the command set but it's the modal setttings that get people. It sems that most people are used to a standard text editor and not one that uses modes.

    I had to learn that the hard way also, especially when programming macros.

    But vim is universal for sure. Since the original developer passed, I wonder if
    they're going to be making any huge changes to vim.

    -- Sean

    ... Confession is good for the soul but bad for your career.

    --- MultiMail/Win
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  • From Tanausu M.@618:500/19.1 to digimaus on Mon Jun 15 19:33:22 2026
    Hello digimaus!

    15 Jun 26 20:33, you wrote to me:

    Tanausu M. wrote to digimaus <=-

    I haven't been able to stop laughing at your comment :D

    It's funny because it's true. I have seen people get very angry at getting
    "stuck" in vim...or angry at me for changing EDITOR to /bin/ed. XD

    Yes, me too, in my early days with that infamous program from hell xD


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  • From Tanausu M.@618:500/19.1 to digimaus on Mon Jun 15 19:34:57 2026
    Hello digimaus!

    15 Jun 26 20:34, you wrote to me:

    Tanausu M. wrote to Sean Dennis <=-

    To this day, even on the latest versions and the strangest operating
    systems imaginable, I still use it. Now that I have more experience, it
    doesn't seem odd to me anymore. But whoever wrote all those commands
    was clearly having a bad day.

    From my experience, it's not only the command set but it's the modal setttings
    that get people. It sems that most people are used to a standard text editor
    and not one that uses modes.

    I had to learn that the hard way also, especially when programming macros.

    But vim is universal for sure. Since the original developer passed, I wonder
    if
    they're going to be making any huge changes to vim.

    Since I started using Neovim with the Lazy plugins as an IDE, it took me a while, but now a complete environment is available, with an integrated debugger and other things like code, or any other modern environment.



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